Wax Q&A
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Ben & Andrea Tsui wrote:
> > Hello Saul & Beverly!
> > I am avid XC skier and mountain biker. I am proud to say that I am now the owner of my first pair of nordic skis.
> > My question is: "What is the best way to wax combi-type skis?". Should I scrape or even sand off glide wax from the wax pocket before applying grip wax? What if I want to stride and skate all on the same day/trip?
> > Secondly, what do you REALLY think of the Swix Super F4 paste in the can? Does it work? Does it compare to ironed on glide wax? Is this a good product for a combi skiier like me?
> > Thanks in advance for any help/advice you can offer! Hope you all get a chance to enjoy our Western snow some time...
> > Ben Tsui > Calgary, AB > -- > Cheers!
A Hi Ben.
Congratulations on joining the world of XC Skiing.
Grip wax should be removed with a scraper and a little bit of citrus wax remover.
Glide wax can hinder the ability of some grip waxes to stick to your base.
It is best to apply glide wax to the tips and tails of your combi skis. If you do use glide wax in the grip zone of your skis it may be nessessary to use wax remover to clean the grip zone prior to grip waxing for classic skiing.
You can switch from skating to ckassic. Start your day with a skate. Just with glide wax. Later in the day apply grip wax and stride away. Eather ski the grip wax off or remove it with citrus wax remover before you skate again.
A F4 is great. Use it on your glide zone and apply it daily. It is not as durable as hot waxing but it is very convenient.
-- Saul
Q > > Dear Saul:Thanks for a great page.
I would like to kmow if there is anything that can be put on the top of my skis to stop wet snow from accumulating there.
Thanks for your help > Martin Kerr Wiarton Ont.
A Yes. F4 Paste Wax keeps the snow sliding of all sides including the top. -- Saul
> Is F4 wax as effective a base prep/cleaning wax as the swix CH line?
> Looking forward to hear from you. > Peter Wiltmann
A Hi Peter. The F4 solid is a great prep wax for Skate Skis. The fluoro is generaly not recommended as a prep in the grip zone of classic skis as it hinders, grip wax bond. The F4 is harder wax than most prep waxws and should be scraped while warm. -- Saul
Q Classic Rewaxing
> > On a new pair of classic skiis that you prepared the base for, I have F4 Paste (from the little tins) on throughout and a bit of red in the grip zone. After about 20-25 km of skiing, it has probably worn off. The skiis would neither glide or grip very well towards the end of the day. Now I would like to put on green wax. How should I best take off the remaining wax without ruining the prep work that you did?
On my skate skiis, I have no idea what is on from last year. I have Toko > white passion wax in both black graphite and a yellow, pink or light green.
> What are your suggestions? > > Brian Brill
A Hi Brian.
If the old wax has worn off just apply the new wax to the grip zone. Otherwise scrape the old grip wax off and clean the remaining wax with some fiberlene moistened with citrus wax remover. Apply grip wax in layers for maximum durability.... 3-4 thin layers.
On your Skate skis you can apply F4 Paste or hot wax right over last years glide wax. To ensure good base wax saturation keep adding wax. Wax remover should be used sparingly.
-- Saul
Q New Ski Prep
> > I saw your web site and thought it was great so I linked it to our club's home page. Exploits Valley Cross Country Ski Club, NF
> > One of our members recently bought a new pair of X-country skiis. I was wondering if you could tell me the best way to prepare the base.
> > Thanks > David Stoodley
A Thanks For the link.
Base Prep. Clean the base with Fibertex and wash with citrus wax remover to clean dust and dirt.
Prime the base as outlined in our clinic notes.
Happy trails. -- Saul
Q Grip vs Slip
> > Dear Saul, > > I am getting ready for a 55km race and am trying to fine tune my > waxing. Sometimes I'm right on and sometimes I slip. Can you give me a few > pointers regarding the following: > Can you tell me when I can tell a wax is too cold or too warm. Today when > I went out the temperature was around -17*C and I ironed on TOKO Blue Dib > kick wax(-3-13*c)for the binder, then corked on two layers of Swix Special > Green (-10-15*c). I felt I was slipping the whole time I was out and when I > stopped there was snow on the kick area. What does this mean....???( I have > been told to always choose my waxes 3-5*c warmer than the air temperature.) > Regarding a good kick zone.....how long should it approximatly be and > does it matter if it does not come right back to the heel?
>>Alix McLauchlan
A Hi Alix, Wax choice is based on age of snow and air temp. For Swix wax use the recommended wax temperature for fresh snow. As the snow ages and gets skied out it looses the ability to stick to the wax so you have to wax warmer for old snow. If the snow was sticking to your base, the wax choise was probably right. You must experiment. Follow these steps.
Pick the wax. Wax the grip zone. Cool the ski, then test. If you don't get enough grip wax a couple of inches forward. Try Again. Still no grip, lengthen the wax pocket even further forward. Try again. Still no grip. use a warmer wax and repeat the proceedure.
The size of your wax pocket depends on your weight and the actual stiffness of your ski. A good ski shop should be able to mark this right on the sidewalls of your ski. You might want to try a simpler wax system with broader temperature range waxes See wax selection in catalogue. The most important factor is ski flex and technique. Wax choice is not that critical for recreation.
-- Saul
Q Base Prep
> Dear Saul > > I've read your waxing tip info and I have a few questions.
> 1. You recommend priming the bases. Even if my skis are not new?
A Yes at least once per season.
> 2. You recommend starting with warm base wax. I used Swix nordic > racing glider, was this appropriate?
A Yes-- not critical.. most gliders will do
> 3. You didn't stipulate if you applied this warm base wax on the whole > base or just the glide zones?
A Pureist say only to glide zones... but it can go all over (my opinion)
> 4. Do you prime it just with one layer?
> 5. Then apply warm glide wax 10x. I think i just answered #1 for myself.
A Yes
> I don't think I used the right base wax.
A If its a glide wax its fine
> BUT... If i had and i am now applying the glide wax , how much do you > scrape off? Until you can't see anymore wax on the ski?
A Yes
> 6.I don't see in your catalog warm or universal glide wax vs cold finish wax. I have at home the f4 paste
A (not for base prep) ,
swix cera system 94 special polar
A (not for base prep)
and nordic racing glider.
A Sounds Right
> 7. thanks for the help. I love your mail order service. Very polite > and helpful staff that I have worked with.
Thanks! <<Wayne Hutson
-- Saul
Q Base Prep
Brian Kulchycki wrote:
> Hi Saul: > When you say to "Melt and remelt a warm or universal glide wax at least 10 times" do you mean to run the iron over the waxed area ten times, cooling between ironings
A YES
>or to melt new wax onto the base ten times?
A Only add new wax to as needed to maintain a good film of
molten wax. This replaces the wax that the base absorbes. (not a lot of
wax)
> Thanks in advance > Brian Kulchycki
-----Saul
Q Cold Wax, Cheap Iron
> Whenever it gets really cold, I melt on some Swix ch4 cold wax. When it cools, It seems impossible to scrape off. What should I do to make it easier?
> Also, I just bought a new Iron at a ski store. Its not specifically made for skis, but the salesman told me it was as good as the more expensive models. I had a hard time believing this, but I bought it anyway. Do you agree with the salesman?
Should I take it back and buy an expensive one?
> Thanks a lot,
Sam Timmreck
Hi Sam.
A Scrape the wax before it cools. Scrape the groove first to avoid slipping. Complete scraping and brushing after the wax has cooled.Cheap irons have imprecise thermostats and light weight bases.Temperatures can swing dramatically from very high to too low. This can
result in seared bases, smoking wax or cold sticking of the iron on your ski.....be careful. keep your iron moving forward at all times...don't back up to go over a patch you missed...get it on the next pass. Wax indoors at room temperature.
Best of luck
--Saul
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